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REUNIONS

3rd Battalion, 5th Marines Reunion 2004
13- 16 May
La Grange, Georgia
3rd Battalion, 5th Marines Reunion website
http://www.usmcvietvet.org/Index.html
For information on 3/5 Reunion 2004 and past 3/5 Reunions
If you haven't made reservations for 3/5 Reunion 2004 yet, please do so as soon as possible.
Contact: Curtis and Brenda Eidson, jarheadnam@aol.com

Reunion 2003 pictures (It was AWESOME...again!!)

If you know someone in the 3rd Bn. 5th Marines who was KIA in Vietnam and would like to nominate their family to receive honors at our next 3/5 Reunion, please contact the company representatives below:

H&S 3/5: Tony Stovall trusmc@msn.com
India 3/5: Craig Tschetter tschetter@aol.com
Lima 3/5: Bob Snowden nandbsnow@aol.com
Kilo 3/5: Jim Blankenheim pablanke@facstaff.wisc.edu

MESSAGES

9 Oct. 2003
Sent in by Frank Pacello, M/3/5

In case you were wondering what makes Marines different.
I believe to us that have served, we really know it is too hard to explain to others for it to be sensible.
The below was received from Col. Steve Fisher, USMC (Ret'd). Semper Fi, Frank

RAND INTERVIEW WITH 1ST MARDIV
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:59:54 -0400

Last week I sat in on several of the 1st MarDiv interviews that two retired Army colonels now working for RAND conducted on OIF Lessons Learned. They are writing a history for the Vice Chief of the Army on OIF and they recommended that the document also include Marine Corps and British forces experiences. Thus their visit to 1st Division and I MEF.

While at 5th Marines, several of the regimental, battalion, and company commanders involved in the fight in Baghdad recounted some of their experiences. The fight on April 10th for the Amilyah Palace and Hanifah mosque were particularly noteworthy.The 1st Battalion, 5th Marines was tasked with the mission. As a 5th Marines account of the action states, "Significant enemy action in several locations along the axis of advance and in the objective area, characterized by a relentless barrage of RPGs, a torrent of heavy machinegun and small arms fire, resulted in the commitment of the RCT quick reaction force in support of the 1st Battalion. In securing their assigned objectives, 1st Battalion experienced heavy casualties and killed an estimated 100 Saddam Fedayeen fighters.....Following 1st Battalion's attack, thousands of Iraqis spontaneously took to the streets of Baghdad to cheer and thank the Marines and Sailors of the RCT for liberating them from Hussein's oppressive regime."

During the debrief to the Division, the RAND personnel said that they had no idea that this fight had taken place, the ferocity of it, and the bravery of the Marines until these interviews were conducted. Here are some additional details of the fight that we learned from the 5th Marines officers and SNCOs who had taken part in this engagement. I felt I had to share with other Marines.

The Battle of the Mosque, as it is known, was actually a nine-hour, intense urban fight. Nearly 1,000 RPGs were fired at the Marines and Sailors from windows, doorways, corners of buildings and rooftops. Some of the casualties the battalion suffered were from small arms, and one of the Gunnery Sergeants was killed by small arms through a thin-skinned vehicle. The vast majority of casualties were from RPG fragments. One company reported that their 12 AAVs received 33 RPG shots, but that none caused a catastropic kill to the AAV. Some of the shape charge rounds went through both sides of the vehicle.

On the first day of the battle, the battalion reported 34 wounded, most with fragmentation wounds to the head and upper torso. It was only on the day after the battle that the regiment realized the number of wounded was actually 74. Many of the Marines had not reported their wounds to the corpsman, because they were afraid that they would be medevaced, and not be able to return to their unit in the midst of this intense fight.

Illustrating the bravery and devotion to their fellow Marines, a field grade officer in the regiment told us of one young Marine who only went to the Doc on the day after the battle to report severe shrapnel wounds to his left arm, asking the corpsman to look at the wounds and to not say anything, because he was losing the use of the limb. The Marine confided to the corpsman that he had been unable to stop the bleeding for the past 24 hours. Looking at the blood-soaked dressing, the corpsman asked the Marine how many bandages he had bled through. The answer, "I lost count. As soon as the regimental leadership found out about Marines hiding their wounds, the word quickly went out ordering everyone who had suffered wounds to have them taken care of.

When I related this story to Irish Egan, he commented, "We still make them like we used to."

As an aside, Col Joe Dunford returned from Iraq this past Sunday after having spent over 8 months in-theater. If any of you know Joe Dunford, send him a note of thanks and well done. To all 5th Marines, and all Marines, Semper Fi, Steve

25 Sept. 2003
Sent in by Craig Sullivan, M/3/5
The Truth in Iraq

The following is an excerpt from a paper distributed by the 82d Airborne Division. It's a report by a Brigade Commander (Colonel) for the folks back home. This is not a picture that emerges on CNN or the New York Times.

Rip another page off your calendars! August was a tough month for the Regiment and we're glad to have it over with. The troopers who were here will never forget the heat of 6-12 August when thermometers pegged out at 136 degrees on the 10th and averaged 133 the whole period. It was a mistake to let bare skin touch metal - you would come away with a blister. Even so, the little Iraqi children cheerfully scurried across the blacktop in their bare feet. The kids are something. They are always smiling and waving. Troopers get a kick out of them running to the street and saying 'Hey mister, mister, chocolate - you give me chocolate'. Of course, they have already learned GI slang and some of the boys practice spitting to imitate paratroopers. It will probably have US troops there for at least another couple of years, so the Army has decided to spruce it up. We are going to throw up barracks (with flush toilets even!) and then build up quality of life additions around ourselves. Part of 2nd Battalion will remain in a Ba'athist compound that they are in now - at least for a while. We may turn that spot into a recreation area later.

I wanted to take a few lines and explain the big picture of this operation as I see it. Our nation has asked the US military to do some seriously heavy lifting - with the help of some staunch coalition partners. The global War on Terror is an extremely ambitious undertaking on par with liberating the continent of Europe while simultaneously defeating the Japanese in the Pacific during WW II.

This war is about ending terrorism and the culture that breeds it. To do that, we had to come to the source. Some say that there was absolutely no connection between terrorism and Saddam's regime. If that's so, how did Abu Nidal, the most notorious terrorist of the 80's and 90's, find sanctuary here in Baghdad until he died last year? How did Ansar Al Islam, a radical surrogate of Al Queda, operate training camps in Northern Iraq until 83 of them were killed by US Special Operation Forces. How was it that our forces found Al Queda training materials including recipes for bio toxins here? Who bombed the Jordanian embassy, the UN building, and the Shia mosque in Al Najaf? In spite of what you hear from the hyped up election year media, we are winning this fight. At the tactical level, your loved ones are conducting operations every night that directly target the remains of Saddam's murderous regime, along with those who seek to prolong the post-combat chaos in Baghdad for their own personal gain. We have hired almost 2000 Iraqis who are working alongside of our troopers every day to preserve security and protect critical infrastructure. We have recruited and are now training the first members of the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps and the new Iraqi Army.

There are now almost 6000 Iraqi policemen in Baghdad and training will continue until there are 16,500. In AO Falcon, we have also started our own security force called Neighborhood Watch. We recruited men from each neighborhood to protect their families and property from criminals and enemy fighters. There are now over 1300 men who prevent evil doers from entering the Al Rasheed community. We have also formed both Neighborhood and District Advisory Councils made up of Iraqi citizens who support our cause and they are beginning to take charge of their own affairs. The fledgling representative government is taking shape and the Iraqis are learning that freedom, prosperity and Islam can in fact co-exist. Each of these groups is beginning to understand that the propaganda being spread by the anti-coalition media is simply not true.

We are not here for their oil, or to destroy their religion or install a Jewish government. They now understand that what was caused by 35 years of neglect and decay cannot be repaired overnight. They have come to know our Troopers for what they are: decent, caring, honorable people who treat everyone with dignity and respect unless given reason not to. They also realize this - the absolute worst thing that could ever happen to them is to have American Paratroopers as their enemies.

The Iraqis of our district are learning that they can trust us. Consequently, they are no longer afraid to approach us with the information we need to eliminate the resistance fighters. The Iraqi people remain our best sources of intelligence. Because of this, we have transitioned from a strategy of near continuous presence on the streets to one of precision. We are no longer alienating innocent Iraqis by conducting searches of entire city blocks. Instead, we wait until we know for sure, and then strike quickly to snatch our enemies from their hiding places. Every hospital and clinic in Baghdad is now operating. The coalition is printing 5 million new textbooks, handing out school supplies to 1.2 million children and rehabilitating 1000 schools. Iraq is producing over 1 million barrels of oil a day. For the first time in history, Baghdad has a garbage collection service. Power production has jumped from 300 mega-watts per day after liberation to 3300 mega-watts per day. There are 1.3 million Iraqis drawing salaries, 92,000 receiving social security payments, and 90,000 working to clear irrigation canals of obstructions.

So the next time you listen to the presidential contenders and media - with their predictions of another Viet Nam, failure and hysteria, you know the real deal. Military campaigns are never easy - and replacing a tyrannical dictatorship with a democracy where one has never before existed is especially difficult. But, our troopers are making it happen and making it matter. We will not fail and with the help of the Iraqi people, we will finish this fight and head on home. Let's Go!

12 Sept. 2003
Sent in by Mitzi Boydell

Long overdue awards for M/3/5 FMF Corpsmen Joe Boydell and Michael Kempel

Kudos to Randy Pelt for his unrelenting perserverance in seeing that awards for "Doc" Michael Kempel (Silver Star, posthumously) and "Doc" Joe Boydell (Bronze Star) will finally be awarded, 33 years later.

It's official. Joe got his letter Tuesday, so did the Kempels. All who wish to attend are welcome. The letters state we will be contacted by local units. Joe hasn't decided yet whether to try to coordinate his in Ohio with Mike's or to have it here in Arizona somewhere. Maybe Wesley Bolin plaza where the Arizona Wall is. But wanted to let you all know that the time is probably close, and as soon as we're contacted by the local units responsible to issue the awards, we'll let you know more details. Irregardless of plans for Joe, we intend to get to Ohio for Mike's ceremony. Hugs to all...Mitz

11 September Remembered
Sent in by Mitzi, USN Combat Wife
From A Navy 1st Marine Corpsman, Richard Baer
From a former wardroom Officer on USS DOYLE:

Hello All, This morning I witnessed another classy and emotional presentation by the German Navy. The FGS NIEDERSACHSEN (F208) who is part of our NATO battle group called us this morning at 8am and asked if they could pass close to Starboard. What we didn't know was that they had their whole crew topside in dress blues rendering honors to the United States for Sept 11th. From their main mast they flew our flag and they held their covers over their hearts. Needless to say, the whole crew was choked up and a few tears formed in our eyes. Both ships stayed next to each other in silence for about 5 minutes. These are the days that remind me why I joined the Navy. Semper Fi, Mike Tank michaeltank@cox.net

Sent in by "Doc" John and Teddi Sue Colucco
9/10/2003

Florida Vietnam Veterans Memorial The Wall was dedicated in Port St. Lucie on June 14, 2003. It was built through 4 years of effort by Vietnam Veterans of America Chapter 566, St. Lucie County. The Wall stands 6 ft. high in the center and 4 ft. at the ends, and is 8 inches thick and free standing. It is made of black granite from the same mine as The Wall in Washington, DC. It contains the names of the 1952 men/boys from the State of FL. who made the ultimate sacrifice for their country in Vietnam.

"Combatwife"
1 Sep 2003
Rick Mills, USMC '73-'77

Debbe, A regular on our forum, The Few, The Proud, The Marines Forum, at http://usmcforum.com posted a link to your NVA Base Camp page and I found it a tough but great read. We have many regulars of all ages that hang out at our site to share their experiences, talk about current issues and pass on a joke from time to time. Most were once regulars at TheFew.com before their original message forum was shut down. Darby, whose site you offer a link to, is also a regular with us. We'd be honored if you'd drop in and introduce yourself and visit with us when you have time. Regards, Rick Mills, USMC '73-'77 Webmaster@usmcforum.com

American Legion Magazine Sept. 2003 Issue
1 Sep 2003
Sent in by Curts Batten, M3/5

Hello All, For those of you who are not members of The American Legion and thus do not receive a copy of their monthly magazine, I urge each and all to make every effort to find a friend that is a member and borrow their copy. To those that are members I hope you are reading your copy, and enjoying it as am I.

As someone put a note into the 3/5 bulletin board the other day, one of these articles is written by our very own Craig Tschetter, I/3/5. The remainder of the magazine is by some well known authors such as James Webb (who as some of you know, was a Platoon and Company commander with the Fifth Marine Regiment in Nam). Webb's article is entitled "Why we Fought", it is quite good. There is one portion that I think needs to be repeated, for those who do not have a copy of this magazine, nor will they be able to get one, I will, with your indulgence quote the author:

"Little recognition has been given in this country of how brutal the war was for those who fought it on the ground and how well our military performed. Dropped onto the enemy's terrain 12,000 miles away from home, America's citizen-soldiers performed with a tenacity and quality that may never be truly understood. Those who believe the war was fought incompetently on a tactical level should consider the enormous casualties to which the communists now admit. And those who believe that it was a "dirty little war" where the bombs did all the work might contemplate that it was the most costly war the U.S. Marine Corps has ever fought. Five times as many Marines died in Vietnam as in World War I, three times as many as in Korea. And the Marines suffered more total casualties, killed and wounded, in Vietnam than in all of World War II."

These statements say multitudes to me. I only wish that the masses were able to read this magazine, and other articles liken to it. This is paramount to the old saying "that we are preaching to the choir." For those of us that were there, we already know the truths. WE WERE THERE, WE LIVED THEM DAY IN AND DAY OUT!!! We served honorably side by side with our comrades in arms.

I take this time to say, that as days and years go by it becomes more and more evident to me the enormous honor it was to serve with the finest group of fighting men I have ever known, THE MARINES OF THE 5th MARINE REGIMENT!!!! Semper Fi, SEEYA Curt

LOOKING FOR...

21 Sep 2003
Help!

If anyone remembers this Marine, please get in touch with Jerry Bain jkbain@yahoo.com

I am looking for any information for my friend, Rodger VanTatenhove, he served with the Marines. Here is the information that I have on him: He was in the 3rd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment, Quang Nam. He was wounded December 15th, 1967. He was airlifted to Da Nang Hospital. He was in a field when he was shot in the face by a sniper. The bullet traveled through his jaw, through his shoulder blade, out of his clavicle and out of his back. He layed in this field until dark, walked back to his group, walked onto the helicopter that took him to Da Nang. It wasn't until he got there that when he walked off the helicopter he finally collapsed. He was shot again in the back later. He has recently been diagnosed with lesions from Agent Orange. I love Rodger; he is one of my dearest friends. Any help finding any information for him like being reunited with any of the men that he served with would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely~Rudy Gunneson-Poling, Artist and Poet

Sent in by Hank Oliver, I/3/5
16 June 2003

"Doc" Larry Hebert (prounounced A-Bear) from Louisiana...FMF Corpsman with 3/5 on Operation UNION, May '67

Sent in by Warren Wilson
28 Apr. 2003


3rd MarDiv Combat Photographers/Correspondents
I'm trying to find the whereabouts of these Marines from the 3rd MarDiv: John P. McGrath, Howard "Butch" Briel, Frank Lee.

FOUND! 1 May 2003 * Just heard from Frank Lee, he and Warren are now in touch...Semper Fi, Brother Marines!
FOUND! 15 June 2003 * I found my buddy John McGrath. Just got off the phone with him. We have set up to meet in August!
FOUND! 27 June 2003 * The circle is complete! I heard from Howard Briel just moments ago. I had sent a letter to a "Howard J. Briel" who I thought would be the one I was looking for. I hadn't heard anything for 2 weeks. But, I still was confident that this was the guy. He called my home, spoke to my wife who called me right away. First thing I did was call him. Looks like there's a chance that the 4 of us WILL be able to all reunite for a "reshoot" of that pic we took in early 1967!!

Sent in by Otto Lehrack
11 Apr. 2003

Looking for Operation UNION/UNION II Info I am a former Marine, 2-time Viet vet and author of two books on the war. I am considering a book on Operations UNION and UNION II. I’d like to contact anyone who participated and see if there is material there for a long term project. Could you please post this message on your website and ask interested members to contact me. Semper fi, Otto Lehrack otto@mce.com

Sent in by Elliot Rubenfeld
3/26/2003


Elliot "Recon" Rubenfeld, M/3/5 (left) and unidentified M/3/5 Marine, Nov. '67
Elliot Rubenfeld is looking for the Marine on the right, please contact us with any info. (See also Elliot Rubenfeld picture page)

This picture must have been taken in November on Operation ESSEX, just before I got hit. We were being ambushed almost every hour while moving to our objective. They said that was my thousand yard stare.~"RECON"

FOUND! Sept. 21, 2003 How you doing Recon? The Marine sitting next to Rubenfeld is named Rodriguez, first name I can't remember. I think maybe Jim? He was from N.Y. like you, I think. He showed up at the Naval Hospital in Yacosuka, Japan shortly after I was wounded. We were on the same ward. He told me he had been hit just outside the battlion area during the first days of TET, if I remember right. Semper Fi.~"Short Round," Frm. Sgt.Tony Martinez, Mike Co 2nd squad, 2nd plt.

Sent in by Robert Fulford
3/19/2003


Robert Fulford, I/3/5 (left) and unidentified I/3/5 Marine
Summer '68
Robert Fulford is looking for the Marine on the right in the pic...if anyone can help identify this Marine, please let us know.

Sent in by (Doc) Magnenat
1/29/2003


Franklin "Freddie" Fernandez, 3/5 FMF Corpsman

There were three of us corpsmen that went to 3/5 together in 1967. We were 3 of the lucky ones---we left under our own power. I have found one of these guys, Glenn Glasgow, but am not having any luck finding the third one. I was in hopes of contacting him prior to the May Reunion in GA. He and Glenn were with India company for the whole tour. I got moved around to wherever they needed another hand. This corpsman's name is Fernandez, Franklin, most everyone knew him as "Freddie" He was from Brooklyn or the Bronx and swore that he would die there. After Vietnam I believe that he went aboard a ship out of either San Diego or Long Beach. I think it was a cruiser. Any info will be greatly appreciated as I want to see Freddie at the reunion. Thank you and God bless, Dave (Doc) Magnenat

Sent in by Earl Boehm
1/30/2003

Paul Telles, KIA 31 Jan. '69 Hello, my cousin, Paul Telles was in the USMC, he was KIA on 1/31/69. I have very little info on the details of his death; which Div, unit, battle etc. He's listed as KIA in Quang Nam. Do you know of any links or info that would help in my quest for info? I was in country, TDY from Okinawa, in Feb-March of 1968 (USArmy). Thank you for any help, God bless you, Earl Boehm

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